Using Coat d'arm paints

My beautiful colors!

My Coat d'arm paints has arrived and I am quite pleased with the quality of the paints.  The consistency, hues and tint are what I am looking for.  Much better than relearning or trying to mix your own paints using the current GW range of colors.

I'm most particularly pleased with Dark Elf Green (Perfect for Dark Angels armor, any woodland green I am trying to paint.  Ranger cloaks etc...)
While Hairy Brown & Barbaric Brown form the basis of my neutral colors for anything leather or things in brownish nature.

What happened here "Gun Metal"?  :(

With exception of Gun Metal, which turn out to be thicker and much more grainier than I would have liked.

Buying Coat d'arms Paints

Sometime ago, I mentioned that GW revamped their entire line of painting products.  The color palettes that I am so used to are no longer the same even if it shared the same name as a paintpot from the previous generation.

After some research, I came across Coat d'arm paints.  The original company that supplied paints for GW.  Using the paint conversion chart.  I was able to source out all the original colors I'm so used to from GW. 

Unfortunately for me, non of the hobby stores or FLGS in Singapore carry Coat d'arm paints.  The only way for me to get my hands on this is to order them online.  Either through Coat d'arm directly or through one of their online suppliers. 

I decided to order from both as a means to test the services of both companies.


Ordering from the parent company.  Black Hat Miniatures.
Coat d'arm paints are manufactured by HMG Paints Ltd and sold online via Black Hat Miniatures

Processing time: ASAP to 1 week
Shipping time: 1 - 2 weeks
Estimated Average Cost: $6.66 SGD per bottle (Inclusive of shipping charges)

Comments:
The thing to note is that each package can only hold 4 bottles of paint.  If you buy more than 4 bottles, Black Hat will invoice you for additional amount.  I placed an order for 8 pots of paint that came in two separate packages.  In total cost me $48.02 SGD which makes it $6 SGD per bottle of paint.

In one instance, I placed the order on the 23rd of Sept.  The order was processed and dispatched on the 24th of Sept.  The shipment arrived in 1 week from the date of dispatched.  All in all excellent service. 


Ordering from a supplier in the USA.  Scale-Creep Miniatures

Processing time: 1 - 2 weeks or more
Shipping time: 1 - 2 weeks
Estimated Average Cost: $6.93 SGD per bottle (inclusive of shipping charges)

Comments:
I received confirmation of the order on the very same day I ordered them online.  However order stayed in pending status well over a week.  After an email correspondence, I was informed that the Scale Creep hasn't actually looked at the order.  I sent a 2nd email and no reply from Scale Creep since then.  It was only 2 weeks later, the items were dispatched.   However out of 9 items I ordered only 7 was available.

Considering Scale Creep is merely a supplier and paints are generally subject to stock availability at the time of order placement and any existing backlogs.  This means the paints that are listed as available on the site, might not necessarily be available when we placed the order especially if quantity is listed as 1 to 3. 

The Verdict.

Adding a cost factor into it.  It may seem like a better idea to order directly from Black Hat Miniatures if you live in Singapore.  It is more economic, items more readily available & gets processed/ships faster.

GW Paints

I mentioned earlier about my paints drying up.  After going through all my paints more thoroughly, I found some of the paints that survived the long hyperspace sleep!

I tried to re-constitute some of dried paints that looked like coloured mud.  But it is near impossible for 50% of the paints, those that I did succeeded in were rather thick and splotchy.  Not the kind of consistency you want on your models.

That being said, I notice an interesting trend.  The very first batch of GW paints survive intact, they were in the condition that I left them in 10 years ago.

A: 1st Gen GW Paint, B: 2nd Gen GW Paint (Boltgun Shell design) C: 3rd Gen GW Paint D: 4th & current Gen GW Paint

The subsequent batches did not fare so well and most have dried up.  I am unsure if the chemical composition of the paints had anything to do with it.  But it is likely that the design of the bottles were the reason for the longevity of some paints.

Lets take a look at the paints when we open the caps. 

Comparison of previous generation of GW Paints

A: Being the first generation paint survive fairly well into this day and I would still use this pot of paint.
B: Looks like moist Turquoise mud.  It might be salvageable but its hardly worth the effort.  The consistency would most likely be too thick to be used on models.
C: Is dried and cracked Dark Angels Green mud.  It is beyond salvage.
D: I didn't feature the current generation of paint since it was not subjected to test of time.  But we shall see over the next few months if this design fails me.

I can only conclude that the very first generation of bottles are significantly better at preventing evaporation and retaining moisture.  Some of the bottle caps from the 1st generation paints are cracked and damaged.  Yet the paint within it stays the same.

This is unlike the 2nd and 3rd generation design bottles.  The bottle caps are largely intact and made of sturdier material yet the paint within it does not survive the test of time.

 EDIT - 19th Oct 2014

Since then, I have bought several new paintpots of GW colors.  One of the color I needed most was White.  For those that don't know they are now two white colors for GW range of colors.
 Ceramite White (base) & White Scar (layer).  I went with White Scar seeing as the description states "They are designed to be used straight over Citadel Base paints (and each other)".

I need something of the right consistency that isn't too thick or thin.   The paint worked fairly well in most cases, although within 1 - 2 weeks.  It has turn into this....thick sludge of white sewage mess...

It is not just good to "Thin your paints!", it is compulsory now

Whereas, the other GW paintpots that I purchased managed to stay at the right consistency.  That is bewildering for me... the other GW paintpots maintained the same consistency.  So it can't be the design of the bottle... perhaps the pigment?

Out with the Old and In with the New

It has been more than a decade.  It is realistic to expect the quality of the product (consumable at that) to have degraded over the years.  However, being the optimist (or cheapskate) that I am, I was determined to give the spray cans a go.

Unfortunately, it didn't turn out all too well.  The paint particles simply didn't travel far enough nor were they spread out consistently enough.  I could tell when I pressed the button. 

In the end I had to spray closer and much longer and this ends up clogging the details on the models.
Not a good sign.

Fast forward sometime later, I took a "un-used" spray can and test it as well.  The result is a little similar.  The jet of paint particle / air was stronger but it still gave very little coverage.  To make matters worse, the paint is now leaking out from the nozzle.

That is a lot of spray cans gone to waste :(

  I guess it is pretty much a done deal with these cans. Which is a pity as I have quite a lot of them and most are likely not going to work.

For the varnish, I'm not keen to test them out on a model that I have.  If it turns out to be a bad can, it might just completely ruin the work I put into the model.  Perhaps, I can use them to varnish terrain pieces.....

Now then...there is the paints...

Return from the Void

Under the table

It has been more than a decade since I picked up my brush and got back into the hobby.
I was laying around one day, feeling rather bored.  Looking around, I decided to clean up my room.  It is filled with clutter, lots of clutter.

My cupboards are filled tons of plastic bags and boxes.  These plastic bags were filled with tons and tons of old metal miniatures from Ral Partha and miniatures from other companies.  In the cupboards, above the cupboards and below the tables - sat boxes of miniatures from Games Workshop.   Anyone else walking into room would have thought this was a made-shift warehouse for FLGS.

Above the cupboards - its really dusty up there

These things have been around for more than a decade.  Half of them in mint condition, still in the wrapper and completely unpainted.  I thought it is high time I do something about it...


So I took a look at my equipment I used to use.  The paints were all completely dried up except for a few bottles.  To make matters worst, I discovered that Games Workshop and completely revamped their line of painting products.

The polar kangaroo is lord over his own domain and will not share his space with miniatures

The old palettes and hues of colours which I am familiar with are no longer there.  It looks like I might have to start all over from scratch too.  A new (not quite so) beginning to a new (or old) adventure.